Systems don’t shift overnight.

They shift when people choose to lead differently, invest differently, and design differently.

Welcome to Shifting to Ethical Systems, a podcast by JERICA Global. This is where leaders, businesses, and investors come together for change that truly matters.

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Join Jules Harrison-Annear and Esteban Fernandez Drovetta as they share lessons, reflections, and real-world practices for building systems that are ethical, inclusive, and regenerative.

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Tune in bi-weekly on Wednesday mornings (CET) for the latest learnings.

Shifting to Ethical Systems is our way of being a critical friend to you.

If you’re leading change in your organization, funding transformation, or designing systems for inclusion... this podcast is for you.

These aren’t theories from the sidelines. They’re reflections from inside the work. 

The mistakes, the lessons, and the daily practices that help us hold the tension between what is and what could be.

Guided by the JERICA Model’s five principles — inclusion, regeneration, ethics, sustaining partnerships, and respect — we explore what systems change feels like in real life.

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Meet Your Hosts

Walking beside you on the journey of systems change.

We are Jules and Esteban, Co-CEOs of JERICA and your hosts for Shifting to Ethical Systems. 

We started this podcast because, like you, we got tired of extractive systems and wanted to talk about what it takes to build something better. Expect honest stories, a few laughs, and plenty of real-world learnings from inside the work.

Fun fact: our theme song, Under the Willow Tree by Vita Irrita, was co-written and performed by Esteban’s son and his best friend. It took them a year — a full cycle of creativity, persistence, and joy — and we love how it captures the spirit of JERICA: collaboration, curiosity, and taking the time to get things right.

After all, who said ethics can’t be energizing?

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Why JERICA? Because your choices create legacy.

The question isn’t just “Why JERICA?” — it’s “Why you, and why now?” Because systems are breaking, and your leadership, investment, or partnership will shape what comes next.

Take our complimentary quiz to discover your strengths and opportunities.

You’ll receive a personalized report within 2 working days. 

From there, you choose your next steps: continue on your own, or explore how we might walk beside you to support your goals.

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